Help guys - 1972 engine bay colour etc

[lisa_spyder]

He-he you could be right about the paint; mind you age could be catching up with it and the shine is off the gloss (happens to us all ). As for the painter's trick - thank heaven my lot are past the drawing on walls bit...it's just the god-awful mess that we have to live through now. Tom is nearly 13, so one morning soon we will wake up to a puberty-ridden stranger in our our midst and I'm told that will go on for several years (yikes). Charlotte is nearly 8 going on 28 and she's a gorgeous power-packed handful already - I feel for Mike when she is a teenager! I think I'll cope OK as I doubt she'll really surprise me with much (she's very much like me you see ). Billy turns 6 soon and is a typical BOY - flat out all the time but is still Mummy's baby and I hope always will be - I need to put a brick on his head and stop him growing anymore...
Like you, I talk to Dad all the time - we have photos of him around the workshop and his tool box sits in the engine room. Mike still asks his permission before using tools out of it - probably sounds stupid to some I know, but we both feel right knowing we can feel his presence....Billy and Charlotte are certain he lives on the moon and they talk to him constantly. Tom is more private about it as he's older...they all joke about him tuning his engines and going for a hard blat when we have a thunderstorm down here - we all look heavenward and say that he's at it again! I'm just feeling down as I am in the process of preparing his final tax return. This has proved harder for me than I thought. Stupid to think that something so small can bring me undone, but it has. Once I'm through with it all, I'm gonna jump in his car and disappear for a while...somewhere where I can give us both an airing and blow the cobwebs away! We would have loved him to be here to enjoy the success of TYP901...he would have been right in the thick of this little club and in his element. But I'm sure he knows...

Cheers,
Lisa

[roblav]

I'm working on my '70S, and the engine compartment has all kinds of layers. First looks like a hand painted satin black. Second is a greyish brown undercoat. Third is Burgundy overspray (color of car). And fourth is a thin layer of flatter black. This seems odd but I'll check again in the morning. As for engine tin, I've been using a gloss black, but I put the last coat on very thin to prevent too much gloss. Seems to be close. Agree that the original color is not flat, not satin, almost semi-gloss, and not quite gloss. This car seems different than all my previous early 911's in that I'd swear a lot of the steel is galvanized.

[pwd72s]

Lisa, do what you can, or feel that you must...it's all part of it, the process of grieving and compensating/coping. Seems to me you have a hell of a guy in Mike. One who would understand completely if you feel the need to take off for a spell, and one who will welcome you back with open arms when you return. Have a nice, and hopefully short, trip...Okay, sweetheart? "Been there, done that"...but we all need to do it in our own individual way. You'll find your way.
The shine off the gloss? Oh yes, know what you mean. After all, the black paint of my engine tin & surround is getting pretty old. Me too.

[pwd72s]

I'm working on my '70S, and the engine compartment has all kinds of layers. First looks like a hand painted satin black. Second is a greyish brown undercoat. Third is Burgundy overspray (color of car). And fourth is a thin layer of flatter black. This seems odd but I'll check again in the morning. As for engine tin, I've been using a gloss black, but I put the last coat on very thin to prevent too much gloss. Seems to be close. Agree that the original color is not flat, not satin, almost semi-gloss, and not quite gloss. This car seems different than all my previous early 911's in that I'd swear a lot of the steel is galvanized.

I really wish we weren't on opposite coasts...I'd invite you over for a look-see. I've never been down to the steel, but if you're seeing galvanized on the tin (?) maybe you're seeing replacement tin? My understanding is that Porsche began going with galvanized in years later than our cars.

[roblav]

Thanks PWD, too bad you're way over on the left coast. Anyway, I checked the engine compartment and the torsion tube area under the rear seats, and here it is again:
1st Layer: Satin black - looks sprayed
2nd Layer: Greyish / Brown undercoating
3rd Layer: Burgundy overspray in the engine compartment but not under the rear seats:
4th layer: Very thin satin black

As for galvanizing, I had read that Porsche started experimenting with galvanized panels in 1970, and that some cars had come with galvanized floorpans. I'm not so sure anymore that mine has any galvanizing, but I was surprised (and enthused) to see very clean steel in the underbody.

I need to take some pictures anyway to document my work, so I'll break out the camera in a day or so.
Rob

[ttweed]

As for galvanizing, I had read that Porsche started experimenting with galvanized panels in 1970...

According to the summary Randy Webb posted in this thread on the PP forum, 1970 is correct for the first use of galvanized sheet metal in the 911 bodies.

TT

[pwd72s]

Learn something every day..thanks!