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[Allen Henderson]

Tool geeks,

I indavertantly mislabled some of the wrenches and have come to realize there are three types of Drop Forged Steel (DFS) wrenches. The earliest are the Large Font with machined ends.
Next came, I believe, the Large Font with non-machined ends AND a somewhat more shinny finish (guessing 1969 to 1972). Finally we have the similar looking DFS Small Font version with the same shinny finish and non-machined ends. I apologize for my mistake that a wrench that was given to me was replated as since that time a found another one which was identical. Thanks.

Added Note: To muddy the water here is an additional, 4th, kind of DFS: small font with machined ends. This was posted message #75 in this thread ! Thanks.

-Allen-

[Rtboy10]

This thread has been so informative and is a great learning tool overall, I have recently acquired a LWB 69-73 tool kit that I believed was complete. I sent photos to a member on another site and he claimed that the 4 smaller DFS wrenches that were in my kit were not correct. The 4 smaller wrenches have a large font but the faces are not machined like many I've seen.

This post really helped me out though because it looks like this style of DFS wrench was found in some of the kits. I read that very few are usually found and that the "gold standard" is to have the DFS wrenches with machined faces. Below I have some photos showing the difference. What I find odd is that the 17/19 wrench does have machined faces while the other 4 do not. The overall finish looks to be a bit different as well but I will let the pictures show.

If the 4 smaller wrenches are not correct I would love to know I would like to sel this set and I already have an offer that is a bit lower than I had wanted. I'm trying to find out more information on the history of the kit as well.

[LiveFromNY]

The 17/19 wrenches were only made with machined ends. The smaller wrenches with cast ends are much easier to find and much less expensive.

[Jay Laifman]

Anyone know if there was a stated purpose for the box end wrench? They seem as though they are a bit thin walled. Are there particular nuts/bolts that have a clearance issue?

I of course have messed up any future owner by adding various other P tools to my tool bag, including the distributor nut wrench. I can see it now - some guy claiming it must have been original to "his" car.

[Allen Henderson]

Anyone know if there was a stated purpose for the box end wrench? They seem as though they are a bit thin walled. Are there particular nuts/bolts that have a clearance issue?

I of course have messed up any future owner by adding various other P tools to my tool bag, including the distributor nut wrench. I can see it now - some guy claiming it must have been original to "his" car.

The 22mm end is for the alternator nut and is used in combination with the P208 two-pronged wrench which is used to hold the pulley as you change the fan belt. While a 22mm is pretty easy to duplicate the P208 really is necessary to use or otherwise risk damaging your pulley with, say, channel lock pliers. Ouch ! Thanks.

-Allen-

[Allen Henderson]

This thread has been so informative and is a great learning tool overall, I have recently acquired a LWB 69-73 tool kit that I believed was complete. I sent photos to a member on another site and he claimed that the 4 smaller DFS wrenches that were in my kit were not correct. The 4 smaller wrenches have a large font but the faces are not machined like many I've seen.

This post really helped me out though because it looks like this style of DFS wrench was found in some of the kits. I read that very few are usually found and that the "gold standard" is to have the DFS wrenches with machined faces. Below I have some photos showing the difference. What I find odd is that the 17/19 wrench does have machined faces while the other 4 do not. The overall finish looks to be a bit different as well but I will let the pictures show.

If the 4 smaller wrenches are not correct I would love to know I would like to sel this set and I already have an offer that is a bit lower than I had wanted. I'm trying to find out more information on the history of the kit as well.

The comment about the machined ends re your post, doesn't really answer your question directly; The 17/19 is a Large Font and the four others are small font; therefore, the set does not match. Thanks.

-Allen-

[Allen Henderson]

Tool geeks,

IMHO Selected Steel open end wrenches may be THE rarest SWB and LWB up to 1974 toolkit wrenches. It has taken me over a year to find just ONE missing wrench to complete my "RS toolkit." I believe these wrenches were only used in, perhaps, late 1972 and almost for sure in 1973. All comments and data points always welcome ! Thanks.

-Allen-

[typ901]

please see my entry of 12/22/14 on this thread.

[Allen Henderson]

Tool geeks,

Do you have a set of Drop Forged Steel (DFS), small font with non-machined ends like the ones posted just below? If so, PLEASE post a photo of your 17/19mm. Why? Some say it doesn't exist. Also, what date toolkit do you think they belong to? I THINK they came after the large font version but before Selected Steel BUT I'm not at all confident of this. Please contribute to this thread. Thanks.

-Allen-

PS I'm looking for my missing wrench and would like to trade or buy to get it. Also note the plating on this wrench is more yellowish with much less silver tone than large font, machined end DFS.

[Peanut]

Allen,

What variations existed in original short-prong P208 tools? I have seen differing stamp locations, and slightly differing shapes for example.

Thanks,

Scott