'Händler Nr 100' Cars . . .

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11-25-2014, 10:14 AM
LongRanger

'Händler Nr 100' Cars . . .

. . . aka 'dealer 100' cars

'Händler Nr' is a designation that appears on the Faktory Kardex and identifies the original dealer that ordered the car . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...iversal+motors

But 'Händler Nr 100' is something a little different. Instead of designating a dealer --- this '100' code identifies a vehicle that was built for 'factory use' . . . internal delivery. And what that means isn't exactly clear. HughH had some interesting comments on this topic --- see post #441 . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ty-nine/page45

Short Version = Dealer 100 cars can be a bit odd --- with combinations of colors and equipment --- sometimes owners --- sometimes all-of-the-above . . . that make these vehicles just that much more . . . interestinger

So --- here goes . . .
11-25-2014, 01:02 PM
LongRanger

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9113310011

Quote:

Originally Posted by alekzandr

. . . 9113310011
1973 911S targa
Fluorescent Green
Blue interior
Gold wheels
Matching engine and trans

You shouldn't make so many assumptions !

This car is very special. Original buyer location was code #100.
Right at the factory!

Car is hibernating and all parts accounted for.
It will be available for sale soon . . .

. . . drum-roll, please . . .
11-29-2014, 04:00 PM
LongRanger

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9110301059

VIN = 9110301059
Eng# = 6301439
Trans# = 7107346
Prod# = 1002454

Apart from a few scribbles on her Kardex . . . 'just a car'

Some interesting options, but nothing extravagant. Built in early '70, this car appears to 've been originally used by Versuch, then sold-off the next year. Zero info available from the Faktory . . . sorry, no history

Be interesting to know if all Versuch cars were 'Händler Nr 100' cars, as well
11-29-2014, 07:30 PM
LongRanger

'Händler Nr 100' Carrera RSs . . .

. . . from Gruber-Konradsheim . . .

9113600011 . . . M471
9113600012
9113600013
9113600014
9113600015 . . . M471
9113600016
9113600018
9113600019 . . . conversion = 0 --- not M471 or M472 . . . RSH?
9113600020 . . . conversion = 0
9113600092 . . . conversion = 0
9113600285 . . . Safari Rally
9113600288 . . . Safari Rally
9113600307 . . . M491 = RSR
9113600328 . . . M491
9113600508 . . . conversion = 0
9113600521 . . . conversion = 0
9113600550 . . . conversion = 0
9113600580 . . . conversion = 0
9113600588 . . . M491
9113600614 . . . M491
9113600686 . . . M491
9113600974 . . . M491
9113601281
9113601357
9113601585

25 out of 1580 = <2%

Interesting to know if these owners have any details to share about their cars' histories
02-16-2015, 11:35 AM
LongRanger

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119300007

VIN = 119300007
Eng# = 6390044
Trans# = 7190029

See post #39 . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...437#post790437
03-07-2015, 06:31 AM
LongRanger

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9112300013

VIN = 9112300013
Eng# = 6320023
Trans# = ?

'. . . car was produced and finished in July 1971 (for factory use) . . .'
Jurgen Barth

Another threade . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by HughH

. . . "Chassis Nr. 911 230 0013. This rare 911S/T was built July 1971 in Gulf orange, it was used by the factory research and race department and sold 2 year later in June 1973 to Belgium. See confirmation letter from the factory. It was sold to the Gaban race team and used as Rally car. In 1990 the car was found as a rolling chassis without engine and interior but with gearbox and in good rust-free condition. The current owner had the car fully rebuilt in England and changed to wide body.

The car today has 2.8L single plug, 915 lim. slip gearbox, correct Scheel seats, dual race brakes, FIA papers and all components are fully rebuilt and the car is race ready. It participated in various vintage racing events. With the car are 2 original Mini-Light 10" rims, 2 Cibie lights, steel front hood for Cibie use (now a fiberglass hood is installed) The engine is set up for twin plug with dual coil and a non original twin plug distributor." . . .
03-14-2016, 10:13 AM
LongRanger

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9113600012

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongRanger

. . . from Gruber-Konradsheim . . .

9113600011 . . . M471
9113600012
9113600013
. . . .

Another thread . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...earl-from-2006
08-03-2016, 06:54 AM
LongRanger

'Handler 100' RSHs . . .

All Faktory-owned Carrera RSs . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongRanger

. . . from Gruber-Konradsheim . . .

9113600011 . . . M471
9113600012
9113600013
9113600014
9113600015 . . . M471
9113600016
9113600018
9113600019 . . . conversion = 0 --- not M471 or M472 . . . RSH?
9113600020 . . . conversion = 0
9113600092 . . . conversion = 0
9113600285 . . . Safari Rally
9113600288 . . . Safari Rally
9113600307 . . . M491 = RSR
9113600328 . . . M491
9113600508 . . . conversion = 0
9113600521 . . . conversion = 0
9113600550 . . . conversion = 0
9113600580 . . . conversion = 0
9113600588 . . . M491
9113600614 . . . M491
9113600686 . . . M491
9113600974 . . . M491
9113601281
9113601357
9113601585

25 out of 1580 = <2%

Interesting to know if these owners have any details to share about their cars' histories . . .

. . . and another post --- RSHs only . . .w/ some histories . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKM

. . . I own one of the 17 Carrera RSH cars, 1387, and have collected information about these cars over the years. The list of RSH cars shown below was compiled from the Carrera RS book, members of this forum and other sources . . .

1382 and 1387 . . .

The Carrera RS book shows that 7 of the first 8 RSH Carreras were Porsche factory competition cars, two of which were converted by Porsche to RSR. Also interesting is that the first 1973 911 chassis, production number 1030001, was an RSH (#16). Many of the remaining RSH Carreras were sold to independent drivers or “insiders” such as Polak, which fits with the letter from Porsche to Mark H stating these cars were not intended for sale to the general public.

. . . Below is a list of the 17 Carrera RSH cars and selected information about each car. It appears that perhaps 10 exist today. If anything below is incorrect or can be supplemented, please let me know . . .

Note: 1256 was listed in Mark H’s letter from Porsche as an M472 option car, however the Carrera RS book shows it as a 0 conversion code RSH car, so the M472 designation in the Porsche letter may be a mistake.

First Series (5 Cars) - Beginning October 1972

9113600016 Production Number. 1030001 (Exists)
Grand Prix White with Blue Lettering
Build date: 7/72
Sold to: Porsche Company-Owned (100), Paris Auto Show, October 1972, Geneva Auto 1973.
Notes: Pre-production car, first 1973 production chassis, no conversion number 0 as other RSH cars. There were 17 RSH (according to Porsche Records) which implies that 0016 was one of them but it does not show a conversion number as 0 like all the others. That may be because it was a “pre production” car like most of the ones from 11 to 20, being built in July 1972.

9113600019 Pr. No. 1031089 (Unknown whereabouts)
Grand Prix White with Red Lettering
Build date: 10/72
Sold to: Porsche Company-owned (100)
Notes: Prototype, factory conversion to 2.8L RSR, Options: 060 Auxiliary Heater, 420 Roll Bar, 1972 TdF - Waldegaard, race history in 1973

9113600020 Pr. No. 1031090 (Exists)
Grand Prix White with Red Lettering
Build date: 10/72
Sold to: Porsche Company-owned (100)
Current:*Porsche Museum, Stuttgart
Notes: Prototype, Options: 060 Auxiliary Heater, 420 Roll Bar, factory conversion to 2.8L RSR, 1973 Racing history, Martini Car at Targa Florio 1973, SONAUTO BP Car at LeMans 1973

9113600092 Pr. No. 1031881 (Unknown whereabouts)
Grand Prix White with Red Lettering
Build date: 11/72
Sold to: Porsche Company-owned (100)
Notes: Period race/rally history, Options: 452 Blaupunkt radio Frankfurt AM/FM short wave/long wave . . .

. . .

Second Series (5 Cars) - Beginning January, 1973

9113600508 Pr. No. 1034436 (Exists)
Grand Prix White with Red Lettering
Build date: 1/73
Sold to: Porsche Company-owned (100)
Notes: Possibly homologated 7 & 8” Fuchs. RSR driver’s seat from factory.

9113600521 Pr. No. 1034439 (Destroyed by fire)
Grand Prix White with Green Lettering
Build date: 1/73
Sold to: Porsche Company-owned (100)
Notes: 2.8L rally engine. Period race history in UK in 70’s*and destroyed by fire.

9113600550 Pr. No. 1034433 (Exists)
Grand Prix White with Blue Lettering
Build date: 1/73
Sold to: Porsche Company-owned (100)
Notes: Period race history in France.

. . .
11-09-2017, 03:29 PM
beh911

1969 "Handler 100" car:

119300950

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ns-jr&p=951204
11-09-2017, 05:22 PM
patrick911

The Carrera RS book by Konradsheim also states that all of the 'handler 100' Factory RSR cars in 1973 were delivered in Grandprix weiss, country code 'Germany' and would always be left hand drive (which is sort of implied by the fact they would be german delivery). In my research for the Martini tribute I'm building, I found that this means that those Martini company race-cars were only painted silver on the outside (e.g.: over the white paint).
09-22-2022, 03:50 AM
_gonbau

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongRanger

VIN = 9112300013
Eng# = 6320023
Trans# = ?

'. . . car was produced and finished in July 1971 (for factory use) . . .'
Jurgen Barth

Another threade . . .

Observing the designation that Jurgen gave to this vehicle 013. Today it is understood wrong, right? In such a case it would be a "prototype 2.4" and not 2.2 and I wonder. Was he in charge at that time of making those "prototypes"? I found this homologation documentation in relation to 013. Maybe it's already here but I attach it in two languages. German and French.
https://typenscheine.ch/de/Info/063726-
https://files.admin.ch/astra_ffr/mof...ich/063726.pdf
I also happen to say... with these documents I can solve the doubt that the Porsche did not know how to answer. The "one tank approved" 1972 was 90L.
02-05-2024, 01:14 PM
LongRanger

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9111300404

VIN = 9111300404
Eng# = ?
Trans# = ?
Prod# = ?

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...Euro-1971-911S

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