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Hello all!
I have been looking for more than a year for an Albert Blue 911 coupe, preferably a T (because of cost). I was hoping for an honest driver, maybe older restoration with NO rust.
I sold my 1964 356C a few years ago and have always lusted after that color on an early 911.
Please DM me if you have or know someone who has a car like this!
Thank you!
There's an Albert Blue '72 911E for sale at Legendary Motorcar Company in excellent condition.....it's not cheap at $98K.
https://www.legendarymotorcar.com/in...911e-2252.aspx
I don't think $98k is crazy for that color combo. I have the same Albert Blue over red in my 72T and I both paid more than that and have been offered more. That color combination is VERY hard to find.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal
Thanks for that note, Cal!
I spoke with those folks last week and there were a LOT of questions after the discussion. It doesn’t have the original motor and that is not the original interior color. There is very little paperwork (though they are trying to get more from the consignment owner). No real history on the life that it lived which is too bad since it came optioned with specs for the Middle East in COA.
While the price is up there, if it were more original maybe it would warrant it. What I found interesting is that Legendary cars policy is that you buy the car THEN they go through it to see what, if anything, is wrong. If it affects drivability then it has to be negotiated with the current owner after the fact. The salesman did say that it looked a little wet under the car but couldn’t tell me any more than that. He also couldn’t tell me what the mileage was as he had no paperwork verifying if it is over 100k.
I thought it was a little unsettling and this certainly is a car with a lot of questions around it.
I am hoping more for a driver with a bit of history so I know what service has been done over the last 10 years or so.
Once again, thanks so much for the suggestion! I have been searching forever for this car and my last hope is that there might be someone on the forum I can connect with!
That's terrible. Not even close to how they describe the car on their website.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
Paperwork notwithstanding, and regardless of Legendary's write-up + reputation + 'sales speak' . . .
. . . Legendary is the Consignor's agent --- that's who they're working for . . . for a %
If I were serious about this (or any) car --- then I would request a PPI . . . my vendor + my cost = minimal shenanigans
Pay-to-Play 101
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I think it is excellent advice in any Porsche purchase to insist on a PPI, LongRanger. Excellent advice. In regards to this particular car, I'm afraid there were too many flags for me to move to that step. Hopefully it will find a good home.
Still hoping to find my Albert Blue "Forever Car" with the help of you good folks. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by dcarpe03
The below car may have been posted on this website and I know nothing about this Craigslist listing and have no opinion of the listing. Good luck.
https://bend.craigslist.org/cto/d/be...226940077.html
Thanks so much for this, RandyK! Looking at the ad, this is exactly the car I would love to own. The only problem is that I really would like a coupe. No offense to the folks out there with Targas but I'm afraid I really like the lines of the coupe more.
I REALLY appreciate you seeing this and sending it to me. Please keep your eyes peeled!
Grateful,
Derek
No problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
I also have a 1972 Albert Blue T.
It is an incredible color and car that will not disappoint.
I have owned it for 15 years or so years.
I have been recently throwing the idea around about swapping it out for the right SWB 2.0 car.
But I do know once this car leaves my stable it would be extremely hard to replicate another 72 as nice as this one.
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Thanks Perry911! I just sent you a DM with my phone number. Would love to chat to explore the possible option.
Thanks!
Derek
Concerning the 72E on consignment at Legendary Motorcars: I also called Legendary about this car a few weeks ago. The salesman told me that it was restored by European Collectables several years ago. He mentioned that it was not a perfect car but should be considered a "driver". I inquired about the lack of A/C and associated vents under the dash as this was indicated on the COA. He, unfortunately, didn't have any information about why this feature was omitted or when. He also mentioned that it had a 915 transmission as would be correct for a '72 although I wasn't sure based on the pictures as it appeared more like the 901's found in earlier model years based on the size of the boot. I'm not an expert but aren't 915's shift cases raised off the floor several inches and subsequently have a much larger shift boot? The car does come with the original steering wheel although I didn't ask for a picture to ascertain it's condition.
For the price this might be a great car but as others have stated, there are some real question marks here and a PPI is a must. I live too far away to stick handle this one and dropped out as far as consideration is concerned.
That shift boot is correct for a 1972 915; 1973 had a larger boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by wagonboy
I love the amount of shared knowledge on this site. Now I know!
Thank you for those that have reached out with Targa bodied Albert Blue cars, I really have my heart set on the coupe. If anyone has one (or maybe a friend has one in a driving group) and would consider passing it to it's next caretaker for a reasonable price, please let me know! Thank you!
What happened to Perry's? Just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
He is a gentleman and has been fantastic about sharing info. I believe he is still deciding if he wants to part with it and pursue a SWB.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyK
New listing on pcar.
Ossi Blue/Red Interior: https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1079529Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyK
Thanks for keeping the eyes peeled, folks! I find the red interior really works with the darker colors (grey blue black). What do you all think?
Also, thanks to those that have reached out privately with Albert Blue possibilities. Still on the hunt!
I've got nothing to offer, other than that I like Albert Blue... :)
You, sir, are a man with impeccable taste. :)
It's a cool color, we had bookends a few years back, a coupe and a targa.
---Adam
I have a 70 911S in Albert Blue, matching numbers, in line for one of my full restorations, best of the best, just saying in case
Hi Mark, Thanks for the note. The cars on your website are gorgeous. Unfortunately, affording an S, let alone one that would be freshly restored to that level, is a bit beyond me at the moment. Looking for an honest older restoration T, maybe E, at the most. Thanks for thinking of me.
I have a friend in Bellingham that was playing around with the idea of selling his 70 T. I think he was asking ~$60K. It's in decent shape and runs well. If you're interested, I can ask if he's still interested in selling.Attachment 538875
WPrater, that would be fantastic. Very interested. Thank you!
I will DM you his number. And I can probably get you a photo gallery too. He lives North of Seattle, hopefully you can make it up there to take a look in person.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
I was born and raised in B'ham. If there's a potential deal to be made I can get eyes on the car if needed.
That's very kind of you, LiveFromNY, I appreciate the offer!
Let me know how it goes, Derek!!
Speaking of Albert Blue.
9112300759
https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...I6JXUpqeFqhGGg
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That sure looks like Ossi Blue to me in the photos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perry911
Agreed! That lighting makes it feel a bit like Ossi. Thanks for the nod to a beautiful car, Perry911, but I'm afraid an S is a bit out of my price range!
Keep 'em coming folks!
Ossi Blue was 1968-69.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTorch
It could be Oxford Blue?!?
Here is the color charts that go by year.
https://www.cprclassic.com/resources
The Sotheby's listing is interesting but has not alot of detail on the car.
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...a-albert-blue/Quote:
Originally Posted by Perry911
Thanks for sending this over! Unfortunately, I am looking for a Albert Blue Coupe, not Targa. Sure looks pretty though!
Anyone out there have a friend with an Albert Blue coupe that might be looking to sell? Maybe in your own garage hiding behind all the other Porsche Metal? :)
I recall you previously said coupe, but I shared b/c the new PCAR listing looks really lovely. I like Albert Blue too, hence my ongoing interest in this topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
Nice targa. What are they on about here with special own method pre-seating, in the listing on PCAR? “The engine has been completely rebuilt by legendary racing technician Volker Bruckmann, who used his own method known as pre-seating which reduces excessive oil consumption that these engines are known for. The same engine-building methods were used that led various racing cars to victory at historic events including the 24-hours of Sebring and Baja 1000.”
Yeah I really appreciate you thinking of me. It is so nice it makes me wish I were a Targa guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyK
https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/1...11s-ossi-blue/Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyK
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Congrats LiveFromNY. I hope you enjoy it. Looks like a beautiful car!!
Awesome !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveFromNY
Hey Cal! Thanks so much for posting this. Unfortunately, I think an "S" is going to be a bit outside my price range. But, boy, is that a beautiful car. Hoping for a T or E maybe.
Thanks again and keep an eye out!
Derek
We mentioned this car earlier in this tread. Some questioning what blue it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal
Just sold at auction for $189,000
see here:
https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auct...I6JXUpqeFqhGGg
Here is another special Albert Blue car
https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...Nr4pUSr1FlEEsA
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Prince Bertil´s 1970 Porsche 911 S in Albert Blue for sale!
Fully restored, historically important Albert Blue Porsche 911 S. This car is one of the first 911 2.2 S cars of the 1970 model year build in 1969. Fully matching numbers and color are confirmed by Porsche Certificate of Authentity. The car was delivered to its first owner, His Majesty, Prince Bertil of Sweden in November 1969 in front of his home Villa Solbacken in Stockholm. This event has been documented in several original pictures from the delivery ceremony. Prince Bertil, was a keen car man and Porsche enthusiast, who earlier had owned e.g. a blue 356 Carrera 2 and an Ossi Blue SWB 911 S, model year 1968. After this 1970 911S he ordered a Gulf Blue 1973 911 Carrera RS.
Details
After a long documented life in Sweden, this car was build for classic rally in Netherlands. The car joined then Carrera Classic collection and went trough a 3 years and over two thousand hours full bare metal restoration. The engine and gearbox were rebuild, all mechanical and electrical parts were overhouled. The car was returned fully to its original specification with a new Beige/Pepita interior. The car had originally special non-Porsche mirrors, which can be seen at the delivery ceremony. After our contacts with old Scania Vabis mechanics who installed them, we have been able to confirm that these mirror were accessory mirrors bought in Stockholm at the time. These mirrors are similar to the ones used in the Swedish rally car of Björn Waldegård in 1968/1969 season. The car has correct Blaupunkt radio, the yellow 169 Hella fog lamps, period correct drivers manuals and tools. The car has also the original Porsche mudflaps which were used in Sweden at the time.
The car is now in concourse condition with top level Classic Data evaluation of 1 (Scale 1-5). The car is now in Finnish Veteran Vehicle Register with FIVA identity card. The car has been featuring in several Finnish car magazines as a show case of high standard classic car restoration The car has been used only in exhibitions and test drives for journalist. It has still very limited milage after the full renovation. The car comes with original registration documents in the name of the Prince and the well documented ownership history in Sweden and in Netherlands.
The 1970 model 911 S got a new 2,2 liter MFI engine with 180 bhp. To be able to compete in performance with the earlier 1969 2,0 liter model S, the car went trough some modifications to reduce its weight e.g. engine lid and registration backplate were made out of aluminium. In total there were 1744 911 S Coupe cars build in model year 1970.
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Originally Posted by Cruisingnkali
Those are Albert Swan-necks, deluxe items for '50-'60s VW Beetles. I've seen them on 356's before, but an odd choice for a 911. They don't look quite right.
They special ordered those mirrors - see the carrera classic (Finland) web page about this absolutely amazing car. I don't know the seller personally but I can help if someone is buying an early from Finland.
https://carreraclassic.fi/porsche-911s/
Hey there Everyone! If you don't mind keeping your eyes open for that Albert Blue 911T I would really appreciate it. Anyone have one in their collection and looking to pare down? :)
I am still looking for you as I continue to hold on to my 72.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
Just found this 1970 Albert Blue coupe
https://inventory.trisslsportscars.c...0-porsche-911t
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Not sure if this is a current listing or not
1972 911S Albert Blue $58000
Sounds too good to be true if it's an S
https://www.allcollectorcars.com/for...-911-/2004001/
This 1972 Porsche 911S was completed at the factory in March 1972 . The original specification included Albert Blue paint, Tan Leatherette Sport Seats, Limited Slip Differential, "Koni" Shocks instead of "Boge," Trim Strips on Rims (fender trim), Manual Antenna - Left w/Loudspeakers, Air Conditioning, Rear Bumper w/Impact Protection, Electric Sunroof, Michelin Tires. This 911S received a rust prevention when new and allows us to confirm that all panels are original to this car and in good shape. This Porsche is a good driver with presentable cosmetics that has been lovingly maintained as needed over the years. The original Albert Blue paintwork has been redone, the original sport seats have been recovered and the engine has been rebuilt. The AC unit was removed but is included and the plumbing remains intact. This is a very desirable 911S with a matching number engine and transmission, a sunroof and some very desirable options. In-House Financing Available!! Feel free to ask for Todd with any questions you may have at (210) 908-6745.
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Hey Perry!
Really appreciate you keeping an eye out. The 70T was sold some time ago unfortunately and the 72S, seems like it is a fraudulent ad. The number is disconnected in the ad. I think someone grabbed the text. Bummer as that color combo is the dream!
Thanks for keeping those eyes peeled!!!!!
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Originally Posted by dcarpe03
Hi. I came across your post - I have a 1970 911 T (Albert Blue / Black) - the car is matching numbers across all areas.
The car has been modified in the early 80's to RS Spec - retaining original engine. It's been updated to S=Spec of the dar in the engine.
Car sports S front OEM spoiler, rear duck lid, RS fenders, Roll bar, Recaro sport seats and a host of other modifications.
16x7 and 16x8 Fuchs (polished).
Some rust in the drivers door jamb and some in the rear under the window....but the jack points and pans are not rusted - go figure.
No Sunroof
Lots of spares and a great story of the second owner (1976-1996). I am third owner since.
Great peppy car that is a joy to drive...
Jonathan
Hi PM sent!
Hi, I know you want a coupe, but have a 1972 911T Targa that I may want to sell. Matching numbers all around and can share the PPI results I got when I purchased it (PPI was done in Dec 2020).
Thank you very much for the offer, I really do have my heart set on a coupe. I’m afraid I am just not a Targa guy.
Thanks again! The search continues!
Here are a few pics of my car
Lots of cool stuff and a great story -
Matching #'s all around
Thank you JSandAK,
I appreciate you sending more picture. Again, due to the amount of bodywork/rust repair needed, I am going to say thank you for the offer but I will continue my search. If anyone out there is looking for a car to work on and drive, feel free to contact this seller. Located in NY.
Thank again!
That ad is definitely too good to be true. I took those pictures prior to selling that car. I’m sure you won’t be surprised to read that I got a lot more than $58,000. The strange thing is that my name is Todd, but that’s obviously not my number.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perry911
Incidentally, I’m also the guy who bought the 1972 Albert Blue 911E from Legendary (mentioned earlier in the thread). I agree, they knew very little about the car, but I took a chance and it is way better than I expected. I don’t know where the earlier comment came from about it not being matching numbers, because it definitely has its original engine and transmission.
Hey Todd,
Very glad to hear that the 911E worked out for you. Sometimes gambles pay off. Enjoy it!
Best,
Derek
No problem--just listed it here. Good luck in you search.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
I am sure you have seen this 1972 coupe, but in case you haven't, here it is (and I actually had a PPI done on it that I can share with you).
https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...t-1971-243227/
JJG,
Thank you for the post! I had seen that and had reached out for price but never went much beyond that I'm afraid. I just sent you a visitor message with my email. i would love the PPI if possible! Really appreciate it. - Derek
Cooper Classics in NYC has a nice one.
https://www.cooperclassiccars.com/19...lue-c-4332.htm
---Adam
It certainly is gorgeous. Unfortunately, it is an S and because of that I heard they are asking over 200k for it. It sure is pretty though....
Thanks Adam
-Derek
At least it gives you something to shoot for!Quote:
Originally Posted by dcarpe03
Good luck, your car is out there.
---Adam
Thanks Adam! I'm hoping that with the warmer weather coming, we might see some Albert Blue examples come out for sale from hibernation. Fingers Crossed!
Hello all! Still plugging away here trying to find a nice rust free Albert Blue 911T. Would greatly appreciate any leads anyone might have!
Best,
Derek
Once a month Bump!
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Originally Posted by dcarpe03
Hello Longhood friends!
Once a month bumpity. I want to thank all who have reached out with a friend of a friend who might have a Albert Blue car to sell. That is the magic of this board. Unfortunately, nothing has panned out yet, but the search continues!
As a reminder:
Albert Blue
Coupe
NON "S"
No rust and preferably not in need of an engine rebuild.
Looking for a nice driver quality car to enjoy with my two little boys
Thank you again to everyone for their help in this multi-year search!
Best,
Derek
Hi Derek,
BAT is listing an Ossi Blue 1969 T this morning. Not quite Albert Blue, but interesting nonetheless.
You have no doubt already seen the rather more needy looking Albert Blue 1970 T at Gallery Junction also?
Best wishes..,
Do you require matching numbers AND Albert Blue as the original color (per CoA/Kardex)? Or can it be a non-numbers matching LWB coupe that is or has been painted AB?
Thanks Richart! I think needy is a very generous word for the Gallery Junction T! I really appreciate you keeping your eyes peeled, many thanks.
Hi Cruisingnkali,
I would much prefer a numbers matching and AB but if there was a nice original AB car with a swapped motor I would consider it if the price were right. As nice as some paint jobs are, I would not like a car that was originally another color.
Hope that helps?
Thank you for thinking of me!
Derek
1970 Albert Blue with Sunroof:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274830467521?ul_noapp=true
https://www.galleryjunction.com/deta...coupe/76652687
Thanks for thinking of me when you saw this, Brent! With all this help I know it is just a matter of time before I find the right one. I think this one at Gallery Junction, for me, is a bit too rough. I think perhaps I would spend a little bit more to not have to do bodywork/repaint/new interior etc.
Thanks again!!
Hi Derek,
Cooper Classic LTD has reduced the asking price of their 72 Albert Blue 911S (9112300759) to $208,000. FYI..,
https://www.cooperclassiccars.com/19....htm#details-1
Another thread . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Richart
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...=1#post1080308
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Thank you folks. I really appreciate you keeping eyes out. That is certainly a dream car, unfortunately, unless someone wants to spot me 100k, it will stay that way. Please keep your antennas up for any T’s or maybe E’s!
Thanks again everyone!
I am going going to say it. Please forgive me as I do not want to offend.
Open up to some different colors.
Life is short and long hood prices will continue to appreciate.
Thanks for your point of view, Perry911.
I have done that in the past. My 356C for example was Rubin Red though I had been searching for a Bali blue. The car was great, but every time I saw a Bali, my heart sunk a little because it was the one I really wanted.
When we are getting to spending this kind of money for a car, I would rather wait to get the one I REALLY want rather than get one just to have it. I want to see it in my garage or in a parking lot and drool. I am confident that the folks on this board will catch wind of something and it will work out.
OR... you could just sell me yours, Perry911 =)
Thanks again
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Originally Posted by Perry911
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...911t-coupe-24/
Not exactly sure it's Albert Blue, Derek, but certainly worth some research; especially if you are in Southern California.
Best of luck...,
Caveat Emptor; Eurocol, mycarrera2.7RS (on Pelican), Jack MolinierQuote:
Originally Posted by Richart
Thanks for the tip!
A quick Pelican search tells me what you are getting at. Thanks Soterik!
Hello All!
I wanted to share with my adopted community that I finally found and purchased the car I have been searching for! Every single day for last three years I have searched this site, Samba, PCA and others. I have performed 5 PPIs on various cars that have surfaced over that time with disappointing results.
I want to thank this group in particular as you all have been very supportive along the way. I have owned many Porsches in my life but this was my first longhood and you folks have been great sending me leads and advice along the way.
Delivered to my door earlier this week is a 1972 Porsche 911T in Albert Blue with black interior. It comes with the original engine but in the car is an Hotrodded 2.7 that makes the most beautiful sounds I have ever heard coming from an aircooled engine. There are certainly little things to be done to it, it is by no means perfect BUT what a car!
Though the search has been very long and at times it seemed like it would have been easier to make due with a car of another color, I am very glad that I didn't settle. I can sit in my garage and just stare at this car as I find the Albert Blue to fit the shape of it so perfectly.
Thank you all again, I am most grateful.
-Derek
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albert blue and on top of that a ‘72? Plus, upgraded to 2.7??? You sir have found a unicorn. Congratulations.
Congrats! Enjoy that beautiful ride!Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyK
Very nice car !!
WAHOO! So very, very happy for you, Derek. Perseverance and patience pays off again. Congratulations!
Great news !!
BIG congrats Derek !!! ... :)
Beautiful car... in one of my favorite colors... ;)
Your adventures have just begun ...
Congrats on the beautiful find. Well done.
5 PPI's? Now, that shows restraint!
Congrats! Welcome to the 72 club. Maybe you can post the sound of your 2.7L in the future.
Happy Saturday, everyone. I wanted to share some fall pictures in New England...If anyone has instagram feel free to follow at @elevenpastnein :)
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Very nice, followed
What a gorgeous car!!
I have owned my Albert blue 70’ for 40 years!
Congratulations on yours and the next 40 ;-).
Regards,
Hi,
I happened to see a fairly reasonable priced Albert blue 911E for sale on eBay? With rare sport seats! Looks like a great opportunity. PS no affiliation
Greetings
Nice find, lots of rust on that one though. In spots you don’t it to by the door jambs on both sides - particulary the driver side (https://www.ebay.com/itm/23463232094...mis&media=COPY). BIN price of $60,000. For reference: VIN: 9110220157
Here’s a better one imo…
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...lue-match.html asking $89k
Crazy that the Pelican car is still available...Sunroof 2.2E for $90k !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by camarilla
I have a numbers matching 1972 Albert blue 911 T non sunroof coupe. 43k original miles. No rust body was acid dipped and repainted in original single stage Albert blue. 2.4 MFI engine and 915 trans rebuilt by Pat Williams Racing in Memphis. 15 X 6 Fuchs restored by Harvey Weidman. New Pirelli 185/70/15 CN 36 tires. Brakes restored by PMB. New Lakewell dash, door pockets, carpet. seats recovered, headliner. Steering wheel recovered by Dallas leather. H 4s. new Gas tank, Much more. Pictures available if interested. In final stages of preparation for Bring a Trailer. Mike 731.234.8525 mmaloan@hotmail.com
Nice! What’s asking price?Quote:
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I know right!Quote:
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private message sent
It has been a while since I came back to check this thread. My apologies and I am so appreciative that folks are still finding Albert Blue cars. Camarilla, oh my gosh, I would have been all over that Pelican 911E. That is such an amazing car at a great price. Holy Moly!
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The last year with "Bertie" has been amazing. Driven multiple times weekly She just won judges choice at the Saratoga Auto museum. That 2.7 howls! Pics or it didn't happen :)
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Very grateful to this community of like minded folks!!!
Love the bridge pictures! Beautiful car
Hello All!
I wanted to share with the community a video that was recently made of my Albert Blue 911T "Bertie". Hope you all Enjoy it!
https://youtu.be/_z0b_pdodS0